Comments on: Who’s Right Slap-Fight http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/ A guy who was here before you were shows you the ropes Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:55:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: mdrs http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1049 mdrs Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:43:03 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1049 None other than Ed's guitar tech told me that they simply handed Ed a guitar that was tuned improperly. Mystery solved. No conspiracies. Case closed. BTW....no one was fired. None other than Ed’s guitar tech told me that they simply handed Ed a guitar that was tuned improperly.

Mystery solved. No conspiracies. Case closed.

BTW….no one was fired.

]]> By: Maistrow http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1040 Maistrow Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:02:35 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1040 Wow, I am really impressed!! In this day and age of people listing to shitty audio on mp3, I didn’t think anybody had any ears left to notice anything wrong at the show in Greensbourgh. Wow, I am really impressed!! In this day and age of people listing to shitty audio on mp3, I didn’t think anybody had any ears left to notice anything wrong at the show in Greensbourgh.

]]> By: Dagga Land http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1029 Dagga Land Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:13:07 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1029 So I'm interested to know where all these clips are showing the keyboard intro in the same key on every other night 'cos I've scoured youtube and all of the ones I've found are noticeably flatter than this performance. It's blatantly the keyboard at fault (though probably not sample rate as the song would have been notieable faster if that was the issue) and anyone who thinks differently is wrong. So I’m interested to know where all these clips are showing the keyboard intro in the same key on every other night ‘cos I’ve scoured youtube and all of the ones I’ve found are noticeably flatter than this performance.

It’s blatantly the keyboard at fault (though probably not sample rate as the song would have been notieable faster if that was the issue) and anyone who thinks differently is wrong.

]]> By: Chainsaw http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1027 Chainsaw Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:40:46 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-1027 If they weren't afraid of looking like Rush, Wolfie could play the bass part on bass pedals, and play the keyboard part live. It's an idiot-simple pop song, and the bass goes duh-duh-duh-duh - it doesn't need a rock-n-roll bass player. And they should use a cheesy old keyboard with a tuning knob on the front, so if something like this happens, they can fix it fast. Or Dave could get one of those suits where you slap yourself in different places to play the keyboard chords. Then if they got out of tune, Eddie could come over and whale on him. If they weren’t afraid of looking like Rush, Wolfie could play the bass part on bass pedals, and play the keyboard part live. It’s an idiot-simple pop song, and the bass goes duh-duh-duh-duh - it doesn’t need a rock-n-roll bass player. And they should use a cheesy old keyboard with a tuning knob on the front, so if something like this happens, they can fix it fast.

Or Dave could get one of those suits where you slap yourself in different places to play the keyboard chords. Then if they got out of tune, Eddie could come over and whale on him.

]]> By: Orlando http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-981 Orlando Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:10:44 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-981 If the song was being played at the proper pitch and only eddie's guitar was the culprit then why the hell is the singer struggling to reach a couple of the high notes? I seriously doubt a professional band of this magnitude would allow their singer to night after night desperately attempt to hit a couple unreachable notes. Maybe it's fine for your lame band but not for van halen. peace bitches. If the song was being played at the proper pitch and only eddie’s guitar was the culprit then why the hell is the singer struggling to reach a couple of the high notes? I seriously doubt a professional band of this magnitude would allow their singer to night after night desperately attempt to hit a couple unreachable notes. Maybe it’s fine for your lame band but not for van halen.

peace bitches.

]]> By: Volfie http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-959 Volfie Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:06:39 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-959 People this isn't alien autopsie. It's not that mysterious. I play keyboards for a living and I have the exact model of keyboard (Oberheim Matrix 6) that was originally used for Jump on the record. Oberheims of that era used SEM digitally controlled oscillator chips that didn't detune because of voltage fluctuations. They didn't have tuning knobs on them. It's all controlled via digital parameters. They have no digital outputs so kiss the 44.1/48 theory goodbye. They had no SPDIF outputs. Further, I can't imagine ANYONE n tour would use an old Peterson tuner or any bulky analog tuner when a pocket sized digital one can be had for next to nothing. The solo shows that the guitar is in tune with itself. It isn't in tune with the tracks and you really can't tell if the bass is in or out by the NC video. So Wolfgang could have been giving his old man looks because he was out and not necessarily the bass. This is a clear cut case of the guitar tech not tuning EVH's guitar to the proper key for the key the song was being played in. Further, I know the guy who designed the whammy that has been installed on all of EVH's guitars for this tour. They are not Floyd Rose. They are custom. He'll be at the NAMM show this year selling them. Correct answer is..... It's the guitar that's out. People this isn’t alien autopsie. It’s not that mysterious.

I play keyboards for a living and I have the exact model of keyboard (Oberheim Matrix 6) that was originally used for Jump on the record. Oberheims of that era used SEM digitally controlled oscillator chips that didn’t detune because of voltage fluctuations. They didn’t have tuning knobs on them. It’s all controlled via digital parameters. They have no digital outputs so kiss the 44.1/48 theory goodbye. They had no SPDIF outputs.

Further, I can’t imagine ANYONE n tour would use an old Peterson tuner or any bulky analog tuner when a pocket sized digital one can be had for next to nothing.

The solo shows that the guitar is in tune with itself. It isn’t in tune with the tracks and you really can’t tell if the bass is in or out by the NC video. So Wolfgang could have been giving his old man looks because he was out and not necessarily the bass.

This is a clear cut case of the guitar tech not tuning EVH’s guitar to the proper key for the key the song was being played in. Further, I know the guy who designed the whammy that has been installed on all of EVH’s guitars for this tour. They are not Floyd Rose. They are custom. He’ll be at the NAMM show this year selling them.

Correct answer is….. It’s the guitar that’s out.

]]> By: john mallison http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-698 john mallison Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:01:09 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-698 This is NOT a live keyboard player on this track, it is a sequencer. That is not to say that they don't have a live keyboard player on stage, he just isn't playing that part. The guitar is NOT out of tune / banged - the guitar is totally intune with itself. The sequncer/keyboard (whatever it is) IS running at the wrong sample rate, that is why the song is playing faster than in should and 'diamond' dave is having a harder time than usual hitting the high notes. The fact that it is a mobile phone recording does not disguise in anyway the tuning and to those of us that have experience working with digital recording it is totally obvious that a) there is a fault and b) where it lies. If the guitar was out of tune, Eddies roadie would have a new one round his neck before the 1st verse had started. Why is the bass player having a fit aswell? If he was in tune with the keyboard and it was just eddie that was out he would have just got on with it. Maybe he banged his bass on the same bit of 'magic' floor that eddie did...... They couldn't have tuned up a guitar by that amount and run it out to eddie as with such a serious tuning up across all the strings it would have played hell with the guitars set up, strings may have snapped and it would surely have slipped out of tune very quickly. This is NOT a live keyboard player on this track, it is a sequencer. That is not to say that they don’t have a live keyboard player on stage, he just isn’t playing that part.

The guitar is NOT out of tune / banged - the guitar is totally intune with itself.

The sequncer/keyboard (whatever it is) IS running at the wrong sample rate, that is why the song is playing faster than in should and ‘diamond’ dave is having a harder time than usual hitting the high notes.

The fact that it is a mobile phone recording does not disguise in anyway the tuning and to those of us that have experience working with digital recording it is totally obvious that a) there is a fault and b) where it lies.

If the guitar was out of tune, Eddies roadie would have a new one round his neck before the 1st verse had started.

Why is the bass player having a fit aswell? If he was in tune with the keyboard and it was just eddie that was out he would have just got on with it. Maybe he banged his bass on the same bit of ‘magic’ floor that eddie did……

They couldn’t have tuned up a guitar by that amount and run it out to eddie as with such a serious tuning up across all the strings it would have played hell with the guitars set up, strings may have snapped and it would surely have slipped out of tune very quickly.

]]> By: Dino http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-555 Dino Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:56:43 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-555 Analog Keyboards drift out of tune when they are left on too long. The Oberheim OB8 I believe is what he used on the original recording. It's possible that the board was left on all concert and began to drift. There is a tuning dial on the front of the keyboard to correct this issue but in this case the keyboard player didn't check the tuning drift before the song began. Analog Keyboards drift out of tune when they are left on too long. The Oberheim OB8 I believe is what he used on the original recording. It’s possible that the board was left on all concert and began to drift. There is a tuning dial on the front of the keyboard to correct this issue but in this case the keyboard player didn’t check the tuning drift before the song began.

]]> By: Michael Anthony http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-457 Michael Anthony Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:22:06 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-457 wow, what a trainwreck... i'm so glad i blew my money on Rush tix instead. wow, what a trainwreck… i’m so glad i blew my money on Rush tix instead.

]]> By: Matt http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-448 Matt Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:28:30 +0000 http://warmowski.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/whos-right-slap-fight/#comment-448 sabotage. sabotage.

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